[maemo-community] Cannot import docs directly into wiki.maemo.org

From: Quim Gil quim.gil at nokia.com
Date: Fri May 14 10:53:20 EEST 2010

ext Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
> Jarmo.Tikka at nokia.com wrote:
>> If this current guy is not able to do (or organize somebody else to do
>> it) we need to find someone else to do it. Or do you have some other
>> option in your mind. I would be interested to know if you have?

To me this situation sounds like a proof that the only public
collaborative workflow that actually works is:

The wiki is always the master. All corrections need to happen there.
When you are ready to ship a stable version you export a version of the
content you need, and you publish it elsewhere in the format(s) you
wish. Normal collaboration continues in the wiki without any disruptions.

This model also deals better with ownership since Nokia (or whoever) is
always free to export when & where we wish, just following the licensing
terms. No clash of priorities, QA criteria and "power" between Nokia and
the maemo.org community sysadmins.

Please find the most decent solution for the Maemo 5 documentation.
After that comes meego.com and a process that follows exactly the
workflow described above.

> This is the second time you've said this, which leads me to believe that
> you still misunderstand the situation.
> The Maemo servers are run by sysadmins, who have root on those machines.
> They decide what software gets installed and what kinds of scripts we
> run for various software on the server.
> As you prove yourself & gain trust, they may open up partial access for
> you to do things autonomously on the servers, as has happened (for
> example) with me for some MediaWiki  issues, and for the election voting
> software & database. I now have access to the MediaWiki database and
> software, and although I don't have write access for any of the
> software, this means that I can help find and propose solutions to problems.
> If you would like some software to be installed on the servers, you have
> to convince the sysadmins. Those sysadmins are Niels, Ferenc and Eero.
> I explained to you that Niels is not comfortable installing this
> software on a production server. I'm a little disappointed that he
> hasn't yet joined the discussion, but that's beside the point. You
> insist that the software *must* be installed and run on the production
> server. Therefore, we are at an impasse.
> Unless you can convince Niels, Eero or Ferenc to install the
> maemodoc-tools software as documented, then we will continue to be at an
> impasse. I cannot convince them, because (as I have repeatedly said), I
> don't personally think it's a very good idea.
> And calling me "this current guy" or implying that it is somehow my
> incompetence which is the only blockage to getting this done is
> disingenuous, and frankly insulting.
> Dave.

Quim Gil
open source advocate
MeeGo Devices @ Nokia
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