[maemo-community] [2] Re: maemo.org services go to read only mode for the migration [[sorry for garbled previous post]]

From: Joerg Reisenweber joerg at openmoko.org
Date: Wed Dec 19 14:58:47 EET 2012
[sending again since I did a nasty oopsie with last one, attachment been 
multipart ;-D  Sorry!]

Just as a friendly reminder see attached mail from Andrew (Jaffa).
Just claiming there are "issues" is a tad thin.
Since you (board) are inheriting those new servers today or tomorrow anyway, 
it is the absolutely most cost efficient place to host tmo right now (actual 
cost: zero), given Nemein is willing to set up a plain VM for this purpose. 
Running the VM will be basically for free. And setting it up should also be 
free for board, unless Nemein for unclear reasons would decide they can't do 
and charge this VM setup along with the other migration work they're just 
about to do.
So I think it's not asking for too much, when we want to hear what exactly are 
those issues and why they forbid moving tmo to the new maemo infra. So the 
more tech savvy of us could think about ways to overcome those issues whatever 
they are. 
All of the above holds true even if board decides to move the complete *mo 
infra to a different possibly more affordable place/hoster eventually. 
Wouldn't matter to move one more VM during such migration.

jOERG (councilor)

Subject: Re: TMO forums donated to Hildon Foundation
Von: Andrew Flegg <andrew at bleb.org>
An: List for community development <maemo-community at maemo.org>
Datum: 2012-12-16 21:57
On 12 December 2012 19:47, Iván Gálvez Junquera <ivgalvez at gmail.com> wrote:
> From the Hildon Foundation we want to thank Reggie for this contribution and
> for all the time and efforts he has shared with us.


> Now we have different constraints that affect the migration of the server:
> - Concerns about data privacy laws if we move the service from the U.S. to
> Europe.

Could the Board or Council share the appropriate laws? Presumably
under whatever jurisdiction TMO, Nokia and/or Nemein (who I believe
Reggie subcontracted through) are held?

Also, the link to TMO's privacy policy that we all accepted[1] which
said the data would be subject to that jurisdiction? And that we
weren't just submitting data which was, effectively, Reggie's to do
with as he pleases?

To cut a long story short, I'm not convinced there is any issue with
data privacy laws for moving where the database is hosted, given that
where it was hosted has not played any part in the TMO administration
or has been using facing in any way shape or form! :-)

Thanks in advance,


[1] I don't believe there is one.

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