[maemo-users] [maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released

From: John P. Mitchell john at cepros.com
Date: Sat Feb 3 00:56:14 EET 2007

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Eero Tamminen wrote:

> Hi,
> ext James Sparenberg wrote:
>>> (this is not an official comment on anything, just my personal opinions)
>>> ext Gavin O' Gorman wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve <Karl.Bellve at umassmed.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox
>>>>> that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with
>>>>> buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its
>>>>> own.
>>>>> My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in
>>>>> order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different
>>>>> pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash
>>>>> player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770.
>>> I think some of the reasons are:
>>> - Licence restrictions
>>> - Hardware changes between the devices and dependencies on these
>>> - API changes between the different releases (sometimes just reflecting
>>>    the different hardware, sometimes for other reasons). You can read
>>>    more on this from here:
>>>    http://maemo.org/maemowiki/Os2007On770
>>> - Supporting mixing and matching of different package versions
>>>    would explode the (already very large) required testing effort.
>> Why I'm curious do you think this would be any worse than dealing with 
>> Debian in the desktop world?  debs are very capable of handling this kind 
>> of conflict, for example you couldn't using apt install an amd64 compiled 
>> deb onto a x86 compiled OS. 
> Yes, that is right.
> If you read the list above carefully and with thought, surprise,
> you'll notice that the package management is not listed as a problem...
>>>    - If you really want to upgrade (a small subset of the components) to
>>>      the very latest versions, you can do that using the development etc
>>>      repositories (sardine/herring/bora etc). However, this is not
>>>      supported for obvious reasons and you *will* need to reflash your
>>>      device occasionally *when* (not if) things break
>> In my case there are things I'd remove rather than mix and match.  In short 
>> freeing up room for things I do want. 
> Nothing should be preventing you from removing packages. Just use dpkg
> etc like you would do on Debian.  See Maemo wiki for more information on
> how to get root.
> If you accidentally remove something you would still need (which is not
> in the Maemo repositories), you will need to reflash the device to
> get it back though. And I guess removing or adding packages voids
> your warrantly (because those configurations are not tested).

    Warranty void if I install non-nokia packages?!?!?!? Please tell me 
this is not the case.

> 	- Eero
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John P. Mitchell <john at cepros.com>

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