[maemo-developers] Pymaemo GUI wrapper toolkit (v1)

[From: Xan Lopez]

On 3/19/07, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbieri at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/19/07, Xan Lopez <xan.lopez at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Last time I checked they accepted patches.
>
> Yes, they accept patches, but many fixes wouldn't be accepted due dumb
> reasons, personal pride, ...
>
> If you're GTK development, you'll be annoyed to see that you have a
> bunch of set_label, set_value, set_XX that aren't coherent, the reason
> to don't fix it is API stability, but they keep it since GTK1.x...
>

In my own experience patches are not accepted mainly because of lack
of manpower in the core mantainers group in GTK+. They are concerned
about this and have sent several proposals to the gtk-devel list in
order to improve the situation.
Bugfixes are always welcome, and if they are simple enough they are
committed without much delay I'd say (just check the commit activity
in GTK+ trunk). Again, the situation is not ideal, but there's people
working on it. API/ABI breakage just won't be accepted in the 2.x time
frame, and ranting about that makes no sense at all. When 3.x
development starts you'll certainly be very welcome to give your
opinions on how to fix/make consistent the API...

> IMHO, Nokia and other companies that relies on GTK should put some
> manpower behind it and specially GLib. These are the pilars of UI, but
> are undersupported, just check the number of core developers working
> on these components, rate of patches, number of pending bugs,
> performance issues, ... And with support I mean full-time hackers, not
> just giving away some devices at guadec ;-)
>

I work for Nokia so take my opinion as you wish, but I think we're
already doing a lot more than giving away a few gadgets. We are pretty
busy right now trying to cleanup our platform, but hopefully in the
coming months we (at least I) will be able to contribute even more
upstream. This is free software, I think I should not need to tell you
that you can help more with patches or constructive feedback than with
sterile rants in a mailing list.

Cheers, Xan

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